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Subject: Re: [MT_E and I] SnakeForce EA
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Same thing read the script carefully.

Tiger <america1931@cox.net> wrote:                                     
Barry ...  what's the difference in these  two indicators ... ???
  
 ----- Original Message ----- 
    From:    Barry Vincent  
   To: MetaTrader_Experts_and_Indicators@yahoogroups.com    
   Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 4:41    PM
   Subject: Re: [MT_E and I] SnakeForce    EA
   

         
Snake force and snake in borders
   ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Derk      Wehler 
     To: MetaTrader_Experts_and_Indicators@yahoogroups.com      
     Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 1:32      PM
     Subject: Re: [MT_E and I] SnakeForce      EA
     

          Hi TIger:

You have been trading successfully with the indicator,      not the EA right?

Perhaps you should give a very well outlined      method, and I (or someone) can code it...  Use pics if possible.       Sounds like your "verifying method" may be key...      

-Derk



     
On 7/12/07, Tiger      <america1931@cox.net>      wrote:                    Since I tested the snakeforce EA with        difficulty ... I thought I would pass this along ...  
        
       I have been watching the 'snakeforce'        indicator very carefully for the past week ...        
        
       I have made 6 trades in a row (no losers)        for over 125 pips ... using it in conjunction my 'method' as a verifier        ... 
        
       so far I haven't noticed any repainting        in the bars that I'm interested in ... that's only the last 5 or 6 ...        
        
       I did add the MACD lines (set at        5,13,2) in the same window ... 
        
       on top of the SF and that gives me an        even better clue as to what's going on ... call it 'kentucky' windage' ...        
        
       As long as the two of them agree ..,. so        far it's been 100% ... 
        
       I'll keep everybody posted on what's        going on ... good hunting ... Jim
        
        
                -----          Original Message ----- 
         From:          richard          gaines 
         To:          MetaTrader_Experts_and_Indicators@yahoogroups.com          
                  Sent:          Thursday, July 12, 2007 10:21 AM
         Subject:          Re: [MT_E and I] SnakeForce EA
         

                  
         Hi guys
          
         It will not work correctly because it repaints as Gordon pointed          out then Matt and Bob confirmed out. The one you guys          have was not for running it was for teaching traders how to use          templates to strategy test indicators experts then systems in that          order. Always remember that indicators behave differently than want we          may see. A indicator that may look good visually not trade well          mechanically. Visually repainting may be good. Mechanically repainting          is bad. Another point the one that I posted has another bug in that the          shift is not correct. Development of experts takes patience and          practice. This one is truely still under construction and no more than a          test.
          
         1. will it fire
         2. are the indicators stable and compatible
          
         There is more and others here are much more qualified than I, but I          am trying to share the science behind all of this for newbies, traders,          and would be programmers and programmers. Excellent money making manual          systems may not necessarily produce consistantly profitable          mechanical algorithms
          
         Guppytraders.com -          Trading Rules Sample Chapter 
         Mechanical trading systems based on complex          mathematical rules and advanced algorithms succeed for a short          time and then they lose touch with an ever-evolving market. ...
         www.guppytraders.com/gup151.htm          - 28k - Cached 
         

          
         The correct science first will bring the money.
         Doc

Tiger <america1931@cox.net> wrote:
                                          Better watch it carefully ...            
            
                        -----              Original Message ----- 
             From:              Madhusoodan P. Shanbhag 
             To:              MetaTrader_Experts_and_Indicators@yahoogroups.com              
             Sent:              Wednesday, July 11, 2007 10:52 PM
             Subject:              Re: [MT_E and I] SnakeForce EA
             

                          I am running this EA on 15 minute time frame on GBPJPY and              EURJPY and it 
has opened 2 short orders as of              now.

setting.

lots 0.1
stop loss 15
profit              target 20
trailing stop 10

Thanks and              regards


           





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            <p>Same thing read the script carefully.<br><br><b><i>Tiger &lt;america1931@<wbr>cox.net&gt;</i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);">     <!-- Network content -->           <div id="ygrp-text">             <div>   </div><div><strong><font color="#000080">Barry ...&nbsp; what's the difference in these  two indicators ... ???</font></strong></div> <div><strong><font color="#000080"></font></strong>&nbsp;</div> <div>----- Original Message ----- </div> <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 128);">   <div style="font-family: arial;font-style: normal;font-variant: normal;font-weight: normal;font-size: 10pt;font-size-adjust: none;font-stretch: normal;"><b>From:</b>    <a title="189@comcast.net" href="mailto:189@comcast.net">Barry Vincent</a>  </div>   <div style="font-family: arial;font-style: normal;font-variant: normal;font-weight: normal;font-size: 10pt;font-size-adjust: none;font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b> <a title="MetaTrader_Experts_and_Indicators@yahoogroups.com" href="mailto:MetaTrader_Experts_and_Indicators@yahoogroups.com">MetaTrader_Experts_<wbr>and_Indicators@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a>    </div>   <div style="font-family: arial;font-style: normal;font-variant: normal;font-weight: normal;font-size: 10pt;font-size-adjust: none;font-stretch: normal;"><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 14, 2007 4:41    PM</div>   <div style="font-family: arial;font-style: normal;font-variant: normal;font-weight: normal;font-size: 10pt;font-size-adjust: none;font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [MT_E and I] SnakeForce    EA</div>   <div><br></div>   <div id="ygrp-text">   <div>   </div><div><font face="Arial" size="2">Snake force and snake in borders</font></div>   <div>----- Original Message ----- </div>   <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);">     <div style="font-family: arial;font-style: normal;font-variant: normal;font-weight: normal;font-size: 10pt;font-size-adjust: none;font-stretch: normal;"><b>From:</b> <a title="derkwehler@gmail.com" href="mailto:derkwehler@gmail.com">Derk      Wehler</a> </div>     <div style="font-family: arial;font-style: normal;font-variant: normal;font-weight: normal;font-size: 10pt;font-size-adjust: none;font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b> <a title="MetaTrader_Experts_and_Indicators@yahoogroups.com" href="mailto:MetaTrader_Experts_and_Indicators@yahoogroups.com">MetaTrader_Experts_<wbr>and_Indicators@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a>      </div>     <div style="font-family: arial;font-style: normal;font-variant: normal;font-weight: normal;font-size: 10pt;font-size-adjust: none;font-stretch: normal;"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 12, 2007 1:32      PM</div>     <div style="font-family: arial;font-style: normal;font-variant: normal;font-weight: normal;font-size: 10pt;font-size-adjust: none;font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [MT_E and I] SnakeForce      EA</div>     <div><br></div>     <div id="ygrp-text">     <div>Hi TIger:<br><br>You have been trading successfully with the indicator,      not the EA right?<br><br>Perhaps you should give a
 very well outlined      method, and I (or someone) can code it...&nbsp; Use pics if possible.&nbsp;      Sounds like your "verifying method" may be key...      <br><br>-Derk<br><br><br><br>     </div><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 7/12/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Tiger</b>      &lt;<a href="mailto:america1931@cox.net">america1931@<wbr>cox.net</a>&gt;      wrote:</span>      <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);">       <div style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" bgcolor="#ffffff">       <div><strong><font color="#000080">Since I tested the snakeforce EA with        difficulty ... I thought I would pass this along ...  </font></strong></div>       <div><strong><font color="#000080"></font></strong>&nbsp;</div>       <div><strong><font color="#000080">I have been watching the 'snakeforce'        <u>indicator </u>very carefully for the past week ...        </font></strong></div>       <div><strong><font color="#000080"></font></strong>&nbsp;</div>       <div><strong><font color="#000080">I have made 6 trades in a row (no losers)        for over 125 pips ... using it in conjunction my 'method' as a verifier        ... </font></strong></div>       <div><strong><font color="#000080"></font></strong>&nbsp;</div>       <div><strong><font color="#000080">so far I haven't noticed any repainting        in the bars that I'm interested in ... that's only the last 5 or 6 ...        </font></strong></div>       <div><strong><font color="#000080"></font></strong>&nbsp;</div>       <div><strong><font color="#000080">I did add the MACD lines (set at        5,13,2)&nbsp;in the same window ... </font></strong></div>       <div>&nbsp;</div>       <div><strong><font color="#000080">on top of the SF and that gives me an        even better clue as to what's going on ... call it 'kentucky' windage' ...        </font></strong></div>       <div><strong><font color="#000080"></font></strong>&nbsp;</div>       <div><strong><font color="#000080">As long as the two of them agree ..,. so        far it's been 100% ... </font></strong></div>       <div><strong><font color="#000080"></font></strong>&nbsp;</div>       <div><strong><font color="#000080">I'll keep everybody posted on what's        going on ... good hunting ... Jim</font></strong></div>       <div><strong><font color="#000080"></font></strong>&nbsp;</div>       <div><strong><font color="#000080"></font></strong>&nbsp;</div>       <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 128);"><span class="q">         <div style="font-weight: normal;font-size: 10pt;font-style: normal;font-family: arial;font-variant: normal;font-size-adjust: none;font-stretch: normal;">-----          Original Message ----- </div>         <div style="font-weight: normal;font-size: 10pt;font-style: normal;font-family: arial;font-variant: normal;font-size-adjust: none;font-stretch:
 normal;"><b>From:</b>          <a title="dr_richard_gaines@yahoo.com" href="mailto:dr_richard_gaines@yahoo.com" target="_blank">richard          gaines</a> </div>         <div style="font-weight: normal;font-size: 10pt;font-style: normal;font-family: arial;font-variant: normal;font-size-adjust: none;font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b>          <a title="MetaTrader_Experts_and_Indicators@yahoogroups.com" href="mailto:MetaTrader_Experts_and_Indicators@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">MetaTrader_Experts_<wbr>and_Indicators@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a>          </div></span>         <div><span class="e" id="q_113bb4b18043a379_2">         <div style="font-weight: normal;font-size: 10pt;font-style: normal;font-family: arial;font-variant: normal;font-size-adjust: none;font-stretch: normal;"><b>Sent:</b>          Thursday, July 12, 2007 10:21 AM</div>         <div style="font-weight: normal;font-size: 10pt;font-style: normal;font-family: arial;font-variant: normal;font-size-adjust: none;font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b>          Re: [MT_E and I] SnakeForce EA</div>         <div><br></div>         <div>         <div></div>         <div>Hi guys</div>         <div>&nbsp;</div>         <div>It will not work correctly because it repaints as Gordon pointed          out&nbsp;then Matt and&nbsp;Bob confirmed&nbsp;out. The one you guys          have was not for running it was for teaching traders how to use          templates to strategy test indicators experts then systems in that          order. Always remember that indicators behave differently than want we          may see. A indicator that may look good visually not trade well          mechanically. Visually repainting may be good. Mechanically repainting          is bad. Another point the one that I posted has another bug in that the          shift is not correct. Development of experts takes patience and          practice. This one is truely still under construction and no more
 than a          test.</div>         <div>&nbsp;</div>         <div>1. will it fire</div>         <div>2. are the indicators stable and compatible</div>         <div>&nbsp;</div>         <div>There is more and others here are much more qualified than I, but I          am trying to share the science behind all of this for newbies, traders,          and would be programmers and programmers. Excellent money making manual          systems may not necessarily&nbsp;produce consistantly profitable          mechanical algorithms</div>         <div><em></em>&nbsp;</div><em>         <div><a href="http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geu_N7RZZGyv0AkMRXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE5MzcyYXU5BHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDOQRjb2xvA2FjMgR2dGlkA0RGUjVfMTA1BGwDV1Mx/SIG=11qfkrl8o/EXP=1184339707/**http%3a//www.guppytraders.com/gup151.htm" target="_blank"><font color="#0000de" size="3">Guppytraders.<wbr>com -          <b>Trading</b> Rules Sample Chapter</font></a> </div>         <div><b>Mechanical</b> <b>trading</b> systems
 based on complex          mathematical rules and advanced <b>algorithms</b> succeed for a short          time and then they lose touch with an ever-evolving market. ...</div>         <div><span><font color="#008000">www.<b><a href="http://guppytraders.com">guppytraders.<wbr>com</a></b>/gup151.htm</font></span>          - <em><font color="#8284cc">28k</font></em> - <a href="http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geu_N7RZZGyv0AkcRXNyoA/SIG=17ne28nof/EXP=1184339707/**http%3a//216.109.125.130/search/cache%3fei=UTF-8%26p=mechanical%2btrading%2balgorithms%26y=Search%26fr=ace2%26u=www.guppytraders.com/gup151.htm%26w=mechanical%2btrading%2balgorithms%2balgorithm%26d=NxYC_ernO5qq%26icp=1%26.intl=us" target="_blank"><font color="#8284cc">Cached</font></a> </div></em>         <div></div></div>         <div><em></em>&nbsp;</div>         <div><em>The correct science first will bring the money.</em></div>         <div>Doc<br><br><b><i>Tiger &lt;america1931@<a href="http://cox.net" target="_blank">cox.net</a>&gt;</i></b> wrote:</div>         <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);">           <div>           <div>           <div><strong><font color="#000080">Better watch it carefully ..            </font></strong></div>           <div>&nbsp;</div>           <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 128);">             <div style="font-weight: normal;font-size: 10pt;font-style: normal;font-family: arial;font-variant: normal;font-size-adjust: none;font-stretch: normal;">-----              Original Message ----- </div>             <div style="font-weight: normal;font-size: 10pt;font-style: normal;font-family: arial;font-variant: normal;font-size-adjust: none;font-stretch: normal;"><b>From:</b>              <a title="ymadhusoodan@gmail.com" href="mailto:ymadhusoodan@gmail.com" target="_blank">Madhusoodan P. Shanbhag</a> </div>             <div style="font-weight: normal;font-size: 10pt;font-style: normal;font-family: arial;font-variant: normal;font-size-adjust: none;font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b>              <a title="MetaTrader_Experts_and_Indicators@yahoogroups.com" href="mailto:MetaTrader_Experts_and_Indicators@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">MetaTrader_Experts_<wbr>and_Indicators@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a>              </div>             <div style="font-weight: normal;font-size: 10pt;font-style: normal;font-family: arial;font-variant: normal;font-size-adjust: none;font-stretch: normal;"><b>Sent:</b>              Wednesday, July 11, 2007 10:52 PM</div>             <div style="font-weight: normal;font-size: 10pt;font-style: normal;font-family: arial;font-variant: normal;font-size-adjust: none;font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b>              Re: [MT_E and I] SnakeForce EA</div>             <div><br></div>             <div>             <div>I am running this EA on 15 minute time frame on GBPJPY and              EURJPY and it <br>has opened 2
 short orders as of              now.<br><br>setting.<br><br>lots 0.1<br>stop loss 15<br>profit              target 20<br>trailing stop 10<br><br>Thanks and              regards<br></div></div></blockquote>           <div></div></div></div></blockquote><br><br><br><a href="http://360.yahoo" target="_blank">http://360.yahoo</a>.com/dr_richard_<wbr>gaines<br><br>DISCLAIMER          - Dr Richard Gaines is not a registered Investment Adviser or a          <br>Broker/Dealer. The trading of securities/currenci<wbr>es may not be          suitable for all <br>potential users of the Service. You should be aware          of the risks inherent <br>in the stock/foreign exchange market. Past          performance does not guarantee or imply <br>future success. You cannot          assume that profits or gains will be realized. <br>The purchase of          securities/currenci<wbr>es discussed may result in the loss of some or          <br>all of any investment made. We recommend that you
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