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Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 18:07:22 +0200
Subject: Re: [MT_E and I] RE: Anatomy of a successful trade (To Felix Irniger)
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Hello Rudy,

I look out for a change in trend via the coloring of the indicators. 
When a majority of the indicators and at least 2 of the three MAs (in 
the chart) turned in the opposite direction, I check H1 to see whether 
the indicators there also point in the same direction and the price 
also, I enter a new trade. But I only trade pairs that have smooth going 
in the H4 like the EURUSD in the past 2 - 3 weeks.

I watch the trades with H4 and H1. Usually when an indicator goes 
against my trade, I check H1 and follow the price development closely to 
decide on an exit (or to stay in the trade). Often an exit is 
immediately followed by a new entry in the opposite direction as you can 
see from my list of trades.

Please note that for better identification and differentiation I colored 
the two MAs with dots in yellow resp. light bliue instead of green and 
instead of red dots I use pink and orange.

Happy trading, Felix



Rudy Sugianto wrote:
>
>
>
> Dear Felix,
>  
> I'm really interested with your trading style....NO need to sit 
> infront of PC for longtime, and you still have time for golf.... 
> Please let me know more detail about your trading indicator... how to 
> use it ( manual detail for each of your indicators), if it's OK with you.
> Thanks alot.
> *Best Regards,*
> *Rudy Sugianto*
> */
> /**"Quitters Never Win and Winners Never Quit..."*
>
>
> --- On *Tue, 5/26/09, Felix Irniger /<irniger@gmx.net>/* wrote:
>
>
>     From: Felix Irniger <irniger@gmx.net>
>     Subject: Re: [MT_E and I] RE: Anatomy of a successful trade
>     To: MetaTrader_Experts_and_Indicators@yahoogroups.com
>     Date: Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 2:26 PM
>
>     Bernard,
>
>     Your story could almost be mine - and that of thousands of others.
>     In many years of trading and working with other traders,
>     programmers, math experts and testing neural nets, AI and
>     cybernetics I haven't found a consistent and reliable automated
>     system. Discretionary trading only is profitable. But I found an
>     easy way, namely trading H4 with a few simple indicators and
>     having learned how to interpret them.
>
>     If you are interested, have a look at my setup and try to find
>     entry and exit points. Here a recent stat of trades of the EURUSD
>     over the past 6 weeks, trading from 6 am GMT to 8 pm GMT (I live
>     in Switzerland)
>
>     Date 	time GMT 	trade b/s 	price 	pips 	pips week 	# trades
>
>     	
>     	
>     	
>     	
>     	
>     	
>     13.04.09 	6h 	buy 	1.3220 	
>     	
>     	
>     14.04.09 	12h 	sell 	1.3275 	55 	
>     	
>     17.04.09 	20h 	exit weekend 	1.3040 	235 	290 	2
>
>     	
>     	
>     	
>     	
>     	
>     	
>     20.04.09 	8h 	sell 	1.2965 	
>     	
>     	
>     21.04.09 	8h 	buy 	1.2930 	35 	
>     	
>     24.04.09 	20h 	exit weekend 	1.3245 	315 	350 	
>
>     	
>     	
>     	
>     	
>     	
>     	
>     27.04.09 	6h 	sell 	1.3130 	
>     	
>     	
>     28.04.09 	12h 	buy 	1.3060 	70 	
>     	
>     30.04.09 	12h 	sell 	1.3240 	180 	
>     	
>     01.05.09 	
>     	exit weekend 	1.3265 	-25 	225 	3
>
>     	
>     	
>     	
>     	
>     	
>     	
>     04.05.09 	6h 	buy 	1.3300 	
>     	
>     	
>     05.05.09 	12h 	sell 	1.3380 	80 	
>     	
>     07.05.09 	8h 	buy 	1.3360 	20 	
>     	
>     08.05.09 	20h 	exit weekend 	1.3630 	270 	370 	3
>
>     	
>     	
>     	
>     	
>     	
>     	
>     11.05.09 	8h 	sell 	1.3580 	
>     	
>     	
>     12.05.09 	6h 	buy 	1.3610 	-30 	
>     	
>     13.05.09 	8h 	sell 	1.3680 	70 	
>     	
>     15.05.09 	20h 	exit weekend 	1.3450 	230 	270 	3
>
>     	
>     	
>     	
>     	
>     	
>     	
>     18.05.09 	8h 	buy 	1.3490 	
>     	
>     	
>     22.05.09 	19h 	exit weekend 	1.4000 	510 	510 	1
>
>
>     Attached you find my template and the indicators used. Try to
>     follow my trades and the interpretation of indicator's
>     combination. Using the H4 setup I wait for a change of color of
>     just one indicator, then look at H1 to follow the development of a
>     change in trend. I enter a trade only once the majority of the
>     indicators, at least 2 of the MAs (nonlagdot, LSMA, VarMov AVg)
>     have turned and try to get a good price consulting the H1 and M30.
>
>     Happy trading, Felix
>
>
>     Ben wrote:
>>
>>     Hi Loren,
>>
>>      
>>
>     One line of your awakening message confirmed my suspicion that
>     there is no light at the end of this tunnel. Thank you, Loren Morlan.
>
>      
>
>     Forex is the modern day alchemy. A bunch of hopefuls waste their
>     time to turn copper in to gold, and it is never going to happen.
>
>     After 6 months of a miserable life and a loss of almost $100K I am
>     throwing the towel. Dealing Forex is like the Duel of a midget
>     with a short sword and a giant with a long sword. The midget may
>     scratch the giant’s toe, but the giant will cut midget’s head off.
>
>     More than the financial loss (that I can comfortably swallow) I am
>     hurt morally. Every step of the way was a battle that ended with
>     my loss. No matter how I traded, I lost eventually.
>
>     I have traded using robots. FAPTURBO refunded my payment, but
>     PRIZMAL EA didn’t. Luckily, I ran PRIZMAL on a demo account and it
>     lost 30% in a few days. I complained. They came back with the
>     excuse that the “broker is playing tricks with your prices and SL”.
>
>     Imagine a broker manipulating your DEMO account! How silly is that?
>
>      
>
>      I have traded manually. I have traded using free EAs. I have even
>     learned mql4 enough to make changes to EAs. No war won.
>
>     My biggest loss was when EURCHF dropped from 1.52 to 1.46. After
>     my loss, it bounced back to 1.50 zone. My last strategy was to
>     trade with very small lots, no SL, and hold my ground until +profit.
>
>     Now, in an account of $20k, I am holding a short position of
>     GBPUSD that has jumped from 1.517 to 1.591. And long position of
>     USDJPY that has dropped from 99 to 94.8 as we speak. As the
>     result, my equity is only $6K. This account might go to margin
>     call as well and I lost another war.
>
>      
>
>     Living in Las Vegas, the main trading action in Europe starts when
>     I should be in bed resting. Many a nights that I have not slept at
>     all, rarely because of the joy of winning a battle, and frequently
>     because of losing a war. Several times I have hit myself in the
>     head feeling stupid.
>
>      
>
>     I am a mechanical engineer with expertise in Cisco networking. I
>     am Cisco certified and a successful businessman. The money that I
>     lost came from my checking account.
>
>     I am licking my wounds and walking away. If you are not a giant,
>     you will lose your head, walk away.
>
>     Don’t let the smell of BBQ fool you. It is not BBQ. The giants are
>     branding the mules. If you know what I mean.
>
>     Run away and do not look back.
>
>      
>
>     Bernard
>
>      
>
>      
>
>      
>
>      
>
>      
>
>      
>
>     *From:* MetaTrader_Experts_ and_Indicators@ yahoogroups. com
>     [mailto:MetaTrader_ Experts_and_ Indicators@ yahoogroups. com] *On
>     Behalf Of *Loren Morlan
>     *Sent:* Sunday, May 24, 2009 8:15 PM
>     *To:* 'Stan P'
>     *Subject:* [MT_E and I] RE: Anatomy of a succeful trade
>
>      
>
>
>
>
>     Good luck Stan.  I attach the requested indicator.  Long ago I
>     gave up on a successful EA which is not to say there are none out
>     there.  Not likely the masses will ever have one.  There are on
>     the other hand successful manual traders and that is sometime I
>     can do without relying on any else.
>
>     Loren
>
>
> -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
>
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<font face="Comic Sans MS">Hello Rudy,<br>
<br>
I look out for a change in trend via the coloring of the indicators.
When a majority of the indicators and at least 2 of the three MAs (in
the chart) turned in the opposite direction, I check H1 to see whether
the indicators there also point in the same direction and the price
also, I enter a new trade. But I only trade pairs that have smooth
going in the H4 like the EURUSD in the past 2 - 3 weeks. <br>
<br>
I watch the trades with H4 and H1. Usually when an indicator goes
against my trade, I check H1 and follow the price development closely
to decide on an exit (or to stay in the trade). Often an exit is
immediately followed by a new entry in the opposite direction as you
can see from my list of trades.<br>
<br>
Please note that for better identification and differentiation I
colored the two MAs with dots in yellow resp. light bliue instead of
green and instead of red dots I use pink and orange.<br>
<br>
Happy trading, Felix<br>
<br>
<br>
</font><br>
Rudy Sugianto wrote:
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Dear Felix,</div>
        <div> </div>
        <div>I'm really interested with your trading style....NO need
to sit infront of PC for longtime, and you still have time for golf....
Please let me know more detail about your trading indicator... how to
use it ( manual detail for each of your indicators), if it's OK with
you.</div>
        <div>Thanks alot.<br>
        </div>
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        <div><strong><font color="#0000bf">Best Regards,</font></strong></div>
        <div><strong><font color="#0000bf" size="3">Rudy Sugianto<img moz="true" src="http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/01.gif"></font></strong></div>
        <div><strong><em><font color="#7f003f" face="Times New Roman"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 191);text-decoration: underline;"><br>
        </span></font></em></strong><font size="2"><b style="color: brown;font-size: 15pt;">"Quitters Never Win and Winners
Never Quit..."</b> </font></div>
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        <br>
        <br>
--- On <b>Tue, 5/26/09, Felix Irniger <i><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:irniger@gmx.net">&lt;irniger@gmx.<wbr>net&gt;</a></i></b>
wrote:<br>
        <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);"><br>
From: Felix Irniger <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:irniger@gmx.net">&lt;irniger@gmx.<wbr>net&gt;</a><br>
Subject: Re: [MT_E and I] RE: Anatomy of a successful trade<br>
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:MetaTrader_Experts_and_Indicators@yahoogroups.com">MetaTrader_Experts_<wbr>and_Indicators@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a><br>
Date: Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 2:26 PM<br>
          <br>
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          <div><font face="Comic Sans MS">Bernard,<br>
          <br>
Your story could almost be mine - and that of thousands of others. In
many years of trading and working with other traders, programmers, math
experts and testing neural nets, AI and cybernetics I haven't found a
consistent and reliable automated system. Discretionary trading only is
profitable. But I found an easy way, namely trading H4 with a few
simple indicators and having learned how to interpret them.<br>
          <br>
If you are interested, have a look at my setup and try to find entry
and exit points. Here a recent stat of trades of the EURUSD over the
past 6 weeks, trading from 6 am GMT to 8 pm GMT (I live in Switzerland)<br>
          <br>
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                <td align="left" width="66">time GMT</td>
                <td align="left" width="85">trade b/s</td>
                <td align="left" width="86">price</td>
                <td align="left" width="53">pips</td>
                <td align="left" width="67">pips week</td>
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                <td align="right" height="18">13.04.09</td>
                <td align="left">6h</td>
                <td align="left">buy</td>
                <td align="right">1.3220</td>
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                </td>
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                <td align="right" height="18">14.04.09</td>
                <td align="left">12h</td>
                <td align="left">sell</td>
                <td align="right">1.3275</td>
                <td align="right">55</td>
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                </td>
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                <td align="right" height="18">17.04.09</td>
                <td align="left">20h</td>
                <td align="left">exit weekend</td>
                <td align="right">1.3040</td>
                <td align="right">235</td>
                <td align="right">290</td>
                <td align="right">2</td>
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                <td align="right" height="18">20.04.09</td>
                <td align="left">8h</td>
                <td align="left">sell</td>
                <td align="right">1.2965</td>
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                </td>
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                </td>
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                <td align="right" height="18">21.04.09</td>
                <td align="left">8h</td>
                <td align="left">buy</td>
                <td align="right">1.2930</td>
                <td align="right">35</td>
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                <td align="right" height="18">24.04.09</td>
                <td align="left">20h</td>
                <td align="left">exit weekend</td>
                <td align="right">1.3245</td>
                <td align="right">315</td>
                <td align="right">350</td>
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                <td align="right" height="18">27.04.09</td>
                <td align="left">6h</td>
                <td align="left">sell</td>
                <td align="right">1.3130</td>
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                <td align="right" height="18">28.04.09</td>
                <td align="left">12h</td>
                <td align="left">buy</td>
                <td align="right">1.3060</td>
                <td align="right">70</td>
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                <td align="right" height="18">30.04.09</td>
                <td align="left">12h</td>
                <td align="left">sell</td>
                <td align="right">1.3240</td>
                <td align="right">180</td>
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                <td align="right" height="18">01.05.09</td>
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                <td align="left">exit weekend</td>
                <td align="right">1.3265</td>
                <td align="right">-25</td>
                <td align="right">225</td>
                <td align="right">3</td>
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                <td align="right" height="18">04.05.09</td>
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                <td align="left">buy</td>
                <td align="right">1.3300</td>
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                <td align="right" height="18">05.05.09</td>
                <td align="left">12h</td>
                <td align="left">sell</td>
                <td align="right">1.3380</td>
                <td align="right">80</td>
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                <td align="right" height="18">07.05.09</td>
                <td align="left">8h</td>
                <td align="left">buy</td>
                <td align="right">1.3360</td>
                <td align="right">20</td>
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                <td align="right" height="18">08.05.09</td>
                <td align="left">20h</td>
                <td align="left">exit weekend</td>
                <td align="right">1.3630</td>
                <td align="right">270</td>
                <td align="right">370</td>
                <td align="right">3</td>
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                <td align="right" height="18">11.05.09</td>
                <td align="left">8h</td>
                <td align="left">sell</td>
                <td align="right">1.3580</td>
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                <td align="right" height="18">12.05.09</td>
                <td align="left">6h</td>
                <td align="left">buy</td>
                <td align="right">1.3610</td>
                <td align="right">-30</td>
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                <td align="right" height="18">13.05.09</td>
                <td align="left">8h</td>
                <td align="left">sell</td>
                <td align="right">1.3680</td>
                <td align="right">70</td>
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                <td align="right" height="18">15.05.09</td>
                <td align="left">20h</td>
                <td align="left">exit weekend</td>
                <td align="right">1.3450</td>
                <td align="right">230</td>
                <td align="right">270</td>
                <td align="right">3</td>
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                <td align="right" height="18">18.05.09</td>
                <td align="left">8h</td>
                <td align="left">buy</td>
                <td align="right">1.3490</td>
                <td align="left"><br>
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                <td align="right" height="18">22.05.09</td>
                <td align="left">19h</td>
                <td align="left">exit weekend</td>
                <td align="right">1.4000</td>
                <td align="right">510</td>
                <td align="right">510</td>
                <td align="right">1</td>
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          <br>
          <font face="Comic Sans MS">Attached you find my template and
the indicators used. Try to follow my trades and the interpretation of
indicator's combination. Using the H4 setup I wait for a change of
color of just one indicator, then look at H1 to follow the development
of a change in trend. I enter a trade only once the majority of the
indicators, at least 2 of the MAs (nonlagdot, LSMA, VarMov AVg) have
turned and try to get a good price consulting the H1 and M30. <br>
          <br>
Happy trading, Felix<br>
          </font><br>
          <br>
Ben wrote:
          <blockquote type="cite">
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);font-size: 11pt;">Hi Loren,</span></p>
            </div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p>
          </blockquote>
          </div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);font-size: 11pt;">One line of your
awakening message confirmed my suspicion that there is no light at the
end of this tunnel. Thank you, Loren Morlan.</span></p>
          </div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p>
          </div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);font-size: 11pt;">Forex is the modern
day alchemy. A bunch of hopefuls waste their time to turn copper in to
gold, and it is never going to happen.</span>
          </p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);font-size: 11pt;">After 6 months of a
miserable life and a loss of almost $100K I am throwing the towel.
Dealing Forex is like the Duel of a midget with a short sword and a
giant with a long sword. The midget may scratch the giant’s toe, but
the giant will cut midget’s head off.</span>
          </p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);font-size: 11pt;">More than the
financial loss (that I can comfortably swallow) I am hurt morally.
Every step of the way was a battle that ended with my loss. No matter
how I traded, I lost eventually. </span>
          </p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);font-size: 11pt;">I have traded using
robots. FAPTURBO refunded my payment, but PRIZMAL EA didn’t. Luckily, I
ran PRIZMAL on a demo account and it lost 30% in a few days. I
complained. They came back with the excuse that the “broker is playing
tricks with your prices and SL”.</span>
          </p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);font-size: 11pt;">Imagine a broker
manipulating your DEMO account! How silly is that?</span>
          </p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);font-size: 11pt;"> </span>
          </p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);font-size: 11pt;"> I have traded
manually. I have traded using free EAs. I have even learned mql4 enough
to make changes to EAs. No war won.</span>
          </p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);font-size: 11pt;">My biggest loss was
when EURCHF dropped from 1.52 to 1.46. After my loss, it bounced back
to 1.50 zone. My last strategy was to trade with very small lots, no
SL, and hold my ground until &#43;profit. </span>
          </p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);font-size: 11pt;">Now, in an account
of $20k, I am holding a short position of GBPUSD that has jumped from
1.517 to 1.591. And long position of USDJPY that has dropped from 99 to
94.8 as we speak. As the result, my equity is only $6K. This account
might go to margin call as well and I lost another war.</span>
          </p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);font-size: 11pt;"> </span>
          </p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);font-size: 11pt;">Living in Las Vegas,
the main trading action in Europe starts when I should be in bed
resting. Many a nights that I have not slept at all, rarely because of
the joy of winning a battle, and frequently because of losing a war.
Several times I have hit myself in the head feeling stupid.</span>
          </p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);font-size: 11pt;"> </span>
          </p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);font-size: 11pt;">I am a mechanical
engineer with expertise in Cisco networking. I am Cisco certified and a
successful businessman. The money that I lost came from my checking
account.</span>
          </p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);font-size: 11pt;">I am licking my
wounds and walking away. If you are not a giant, you will lose your
head, walk away.</span>
          </p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);font-size: 11pt;">Don’t let the smell
of BBQ fool you. It is not BBQ. The giants are branding the mules. If
you know what I mean.</span>
          </p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);font-size: 11pt;">Run away and do not
look back.</span>
          </p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);font-size: 11pt;"> </span>
          </p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);font-size: 11pt;">Bernard </span>
          </p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);font-size: 11pt;"> </span>
          </p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);font-size: 11pt;"> </span>
          </p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);font-size: 11pt;"> </span>
          </p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);font-size: 11pt;"> </span>
          </p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);font-size: 11pt;"> </span>
          </p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);font-size: 11pt;"> </span>
          </p>
          <div>
          <div style="border-style: solid none none;border-width: 1pt medium medium;">
          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> <a moz="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://us.mc516.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=MetaTrader_Experts_and_Indicators@yahoogroups.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:MetaTrader_Experts_and_Indicators@yahoogroups.com">MetaTrader_Experts_
and_Indicators@ yahoogroups. com</a> [<a moz="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://us.mc516.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=MetaTrader_Experts_and_Indicators@yahoogroups.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:MetaTrader_Experts_and_Indicators@yahoogroups.com">mailto:MetaTrader_
Experts_and_ Indicators@ yahoogroups. com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Loren
Morlan<br>
          <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May 24, 2009 8:15 PM<br>
          <b>To:</b> 'Stan P'<br>
          <b>Subject:</b> [MT_E and I] RE: Anatomy of a succeful trade</span></p>
          </div>
          </div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"> 
          </p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
          <br>
          <br>
          </p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);font-size: 11pt;">Good luck Stan.  I
attach the requested indicator.  Long ago I gave up on a successful EA
which is not to say there are none out there.  Not likely the masses
will ever have one.  There are on the other hand successful manual
traders and that is sometime I can do without relying on any else.</span>
          </p>
          <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);font-size: 11pt;">Loren</span><span style="color: white;"></span></p>
          </div>
        </blockquote>
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}
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}
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  font-weight: bold;
  font-size: 78%;
  line-height: 122%;
}
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  margin-bottom: 10px;
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}
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          font-weight: bold;
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		margin: 0;
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		padding: 0 1px;
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	margin-bottom: 20px;
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		text-decoration: none;
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		font-size: 130%;
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	  margin-bottom: 20px;
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div.file-title a,
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    font-weight: bold;
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    font-size: 10px;
    font-weight: normal;
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    font-family: Verdana;
    font-size: 10px;
}

#ygrp-mlmsg a {
    color: #1E66AE;
}

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    text-decoration: none;
}

div.attach-table {
    width: 400px;
}

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