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As you know my posts are directed towards manual trading analysts, not those on this board who are looking for an EA which will never lay the golden egg. I had thought no one was interested in profitable manual trading on this board. It would seem you are one of the few who do recognize the necessity of applying appropriate analysis to their trade activity. Good for you Jack. My posts set forth in detail the various analytical procedures and indicators used to support a lower risk trade. Written analysis of real time trades are always prepared and saved to my hard drive. If not done how else can the analyst later review successful or unsuccessful trade events. Frankly Jack many traders are either too lazy and/or poorly informed to prepared comprehensive written analysis of their pre trade activity. Trading is a serious business requiring competence and discipline. I suggest you prepare a written summary along with chart(s) in support of you trade activity. I always do. Loren From: MetaTrader_Experts_and_Indicators@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MetaTrader_Experts_and_Indicators@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jack Antonio Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 10:46 PM To: Loren Morlan; Divergence@yahoogroups.com Cc: metatrader_experts_and_indicators@yahoogroups.com Subject: [MT_E and I] Re: GBP/USD, 8/4/11, 4 HOUR EW USING 20/200 SMAs Loren, As always, I thank you for sharing your thoughts and analysis here. I think I am starting to get the grasp on the use of RSI and Price Divergence. However I am still struggling to incorporate the 20 and 200 SMA in my analysis. I am reviewing your comments on different emails with regards to the use of these 2 SMAs. I hope to really understand and apply these in my own analysis. Thank you again. Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: Loren Morlan To: Divergence@yahoogroups.com Cc: metatrader_experts_and_indicators@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 12:35 AM Subject: GBP/USD, 8/4/11, 4 HOUR EW USING 20/200 SMAs 4 HOUR; This chart study uses 20/200 SMAs to count EWs and recognize divergences. In a down cycle bears were able to drive the 20 SMA farther from the 200 SMA as compared to the lesser distance at wave 5 low. This is an internal 20 SMA negative divergence between these two important EWs. This is an objective finding always present between waves 3 and 5. Bulls were at their strongest at corrective wave c/B. There is an important CND between the 20 SMA values at wave c/B and wave 2. Price levels were the same between these two waves however bulls were unable to force the 20 SMA to the value earlier established at wave 2. This historical fact conclusively establishes loss of bull strength and greater bear strength incident to a longer term down cycle. The direction, either up or down, of the 20 SMA tells the analyst which EW is observed in its path. In this respect 20 SMA traced each EW 1 through 5 and later a, b and c/B. 20 SMA is currently pointed down incident to a new 5 wave cycle lower. Optimal entry short occurs at or near wave 2 fractal high. Short is closed at wave 5 low. Optimal long entered at or near corrective wave b fractal low and closed at c/B, 20 SMA highest value. Comments; Both SMAs are slower than price and are therefore negatively shifted in this example -8. The negative shifted SMAs more nearly approximate price action. RSI, MACDs, Fibonacci studies, price patterns (ZUP76, etc.) and divergences should also be used with SMAs incident to a comprehensive analysis. Loren ------=_NextPart_000_006D_01CC535B.9B7531A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit  

Jack,

Thank you for your comments re SMAs.  As you know my posts are directed towards manual trading analysts,  not those on this board who are looking for an EA which will never lay the golden egg.   I had thought no one was interested in profitable manual trading on this board.   It would seem you are one of the few who do recognize the necessity of applying appropriate analysis to their trade activity.  Good for you Jack.

 

My posts set forth in detail the various analytical procedures and indicators used to support a lower risk trade.  Written analysis of real time trades are always prepared and saved to my hard drive.   If not done how else can the analyst later review successful or unsuccessful trade events.  Frankly Jack many traders are either too lazy and/or poorly informed to prepared comprehensive written analysis of their pre trade activity.   Trading is a serious business requiring competence and discipline.   I suggest you prepare a written summary along with chart(s) in support of you trade activity.  I always do.

 

Loren

 

 

 

From: MetaTrader_Experts_and_Indicators@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MetaTrader_Experts_and_Indicators@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jack Antonio
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 10:46 PM
To: Loren Morlan; Divergence@yahoogroups.com
Cc: metatrader_experts_and_indicators@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MT_E and I] Re: GBP/USD, 8/4/11, 4 HOUR EW USING 20/200 SMAs

 

 

Loren, 

 

As always,  I thank you for sharing your thoughts and analysis here.  I think I am starting to get the grasp on the use of RSI and Price Divergence.  However I am still struggling to incorporate the 20 and 200 SMA in my analysis.     I am reviewing your comments on different emails with regards to the use of these 2 SMAs.  I hope to really understand and apply these in my own analysis.

 

Thank you again.

 

Jack

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 12:35 AM

Subject: GBP/USD, 8/4/11, 4 HOUR EW USING 20/200 SMAs

 

4 HOUR;

This chart study uses 20/200 SMAs to count EWs and recognize  divergences.  In a down cycle bears were able to drive the 20 SMA farther from the 200 SMA as compared to the lesser distance at wave 5 low.  This is an internal 20 SMA negative divergence between these two important EWs.   This is an objective finding always present between waves 3 and 5.

 

Bulls were at their strongest at corrective wave c/B.  There is an important CND between the 20 SMA values at wave c/B and wave 2.   Price levels were the same between these two waves however bulls were unable to force the 20 SMA to the value earlier established at wave 2.  This historical fact conclusively establishes loss of bull strength and greater bear strength incident to a longer term down cycle.

 

The direction, either up or down, of the 20 SMA tells the analyst which EW is observed in its path.   In this respect 20 SMA traced each EW 1 through 5 and later a, b and c/B.    20 SMA is currently pointed down incident to a new 5 wave cycle lower.

 

Optimal entry short occurs at or near wave 2 fractal high.   Short is closed at wave 5 low.  Optimal long entered at or near corrective wave b fractal low and closed at c/B, 20 SMA highest value. 

 

Comments;

Both SMAs are slower than price and are therefore negatively shifted in this example -8.   The negative shifted SMAs more nearly approximate price action.

 

RSI, MACDs, Fibonacci studies, price patterns (ZUP76, etc.) and divergences should also be used with SMAs incident to a comprehensive analysis.

 

Loren

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