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contact Divergence-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list Divergence@yahoogroups.com List-Id: Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:27:11 -0400 Subject: [Divergence] RE: [MT_E and I] RE: "Forex Trading Strategy" published by Quantum Globe, Inc., copyright 2005 Reply-To: Divergence@yahoogroups.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-email-ff-m Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0047_01CA1B72.20C91070" X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 8.5.392 [270.13.52/2298] ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01CA1B72.20C91070 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I use larger stop loss levels depending on the time frame used. We often = see large spikes in the 60m or smaller frames which force premature closur= e. We are trying to enter a valid trade in the daily and S/L levels consis= tent with that time frame apply. Mandy perhaps most failed trades are beca= use of incorrect S/L, not because the trade is in the wrong direction. Thi= s strategy wants to trade an existing trend in the daily so we know the dir= ection. =20 It must be observed that there are traders who trade each time frame. Fib= retracement studies in each period often tell the trader when a particula= r period is exhausted during the daily trend. Example, the 5m traders are = exhausted before the 15, 30, etc. traders and retracement studies document = that exhaustion. Fib retracement is entirely objective and does not depend= on an indicator which mathematically changes raw price data. Price patter= ns are also entirely objective and are valuable but not always controlling.= These are features which the 2005 article did not discuss and were appare= ntly not available. =20 The basic concept of trading the daily trend using smaller time frame Fib. = retracement studies is correct. =20 Loren =20 From: MetaTrader_Experts_and_Indicators@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MetaTrader_= Experts_and_Indicators@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of RD Watkins - 4X Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 11:52 AM To: MetaTrader_Experts_and_Indicators@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [MT_E and I] RE: "Forex Trading Strategy" published by Quantum= Globe, Inc., copyright 2005 =20 =20=20 Loren, I agree with you on the higher time frames. I made rough estimates of the s= ettings for height of the active wave and the stop loss correlated to each = time frame. Do these seem to correspond to the settings you are using? =20 RDWatkins =20 _____=20=20 From: MetaTrader_Experts_and_Indicators@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MetaTrader_= Experts_and_Indicators@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Loren Morlan Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 11:23 AM To: MetaTrader_Experts_and_Indicators@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [MT_E and I] RE: "Forex Trading Strategy" published by Quantum= Globe, Inc., copyright 2005 =20 =20=20 Bob Yes, 25-75, although I don=E2=80=99t think it makes much difference, 23.6-7= 8.6 which numbers are used. I prefer the 15, 30 or 60 minute periods rathe= r than the 5m. =20 Loren =20 From: MetaTrader_Experts_and_Indicators@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MetaTrader_= Experts_and_Indicators@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob O'Brien Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:18 AM To: MetaTrader_Experts_and_Indicators@yahoogroups.com Subject: [MT_E and I] RE: "Forex Trading Strategy" published by Quantum Glo= be, Inc., copyright 2005 =20 =20=20 Loren =20 I notice in the book that they use fibs of 25.0 and 75.0. Do you use these= or the true 23.6 and 78.6 ? =20 Bob __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signatur= e database 4328 (20090812) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01CA1B72.20C91070 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  

I us= e larger stop loss levels depending on the time frame used.=C2=A0=C2=A0 We often see large spikes in the 60m or smaller frames wh= ich =C2=A0force premature closure.=C2=A0 We are trying to enter a valid trade in the daily and S/L le= vels consistent with that time frame apply.=C2=A0 Mandy perhaps most failed trades are beca= use of incorrect S/L, not because the trade is in the wrong direction.=C2=A0 This = strategy wants to trade an existing trend in the daily so we know the direction.<= /o>

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It m= ust be observed that there=C2=A0 are traders who trade each time frame.=C2=A0 Fib. retracement studies in each period often tell the trader = when a particular period is exhausted during the daily trend.=C2=A0 Example, the 5m traders a= re exhausted before the 15, 30, etc. traders and retracement studies document = that exhaustion.=C2=A0 Fib retracement is entirely objective and does not depend= on an indicator which mathematically changes raw price data.=C2=A0 Price patterns= are also entirely objective and are valuable but not always controlling.=C2=A0 These= are features which the 2005 article did not discuss and were apparently not available.

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The = basic concept of trading the daily trend using smaller time frame Fib. retracement studies is correct.

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From: MetaTrader_Experts_and_Indicators@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MetaTrader_Experts_and_Indicators@yahoogroups.c= om] On Behalf Of RD Watkins - 4X
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 11:52 AM
To: MetaTrader_Experts_and_Indicators@yahoogroups.com=
Subject: RE: [MT_E and I] RE: "Forex Trading Strategy" published by Quantum Globe, Inc., copyright 2005

 

 

Loren,

I agree with you on the higher time frames. I made rough estimates of the settings for height of the active wave and the stop loss correlated to each time frame. Do these seem to correspond to the settings you are using?

 
RDWatkins

 

From: MetaTrader_Experts_and_Indicators@yah= oogroups.com [mailto:MetaTrader_Experts_and_Indicators@yahoogroups= com] On Behalf Of Loren Morlan
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 11:23 AM
To: MetaTrader_Experts_and_Indicators@yahoogro= ups.com
Subject: RE: [MT_E and I] RE: "Forex Trading Strategy" published by Quantum Globe, Inc., copyright 2005

 

 

Bob

Yes, 25-75, although I d= on=E2=80=99t think it makes much difference, 23.6-78.6 which numbers are used.  I prefer the 15, 30 or 60 minute periods rather than the 5m.

 

Loren

 

From: MetaTrader_Experts_and_Indicators@yahoogrou= ps.com [mailto:MetaTrader_Experts_and_Indicators@= yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob O'Brien
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:18 AM
To: MetaTrader_Experts_and_Indicators@yahoogro= ups.com
Subject: [MT_E and I] RE: "Forex Trading Strategy" publish= ed by Quantum Globe, Inc., copyright 2005

 

 

Loren

 

I notice in the book tha= t they use fibs of 25.0 and 75.0.  Do you use these or the true 23.6 and 78.6= ?

 

Bob



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